

Side-by-side
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze vs Four Seasons Surf Club
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze: Il Palagio and the Atrium Bar get consistent praise. Four Seasons Surf Club: The restored 1930s club building with its archways and coffered ceilings gets called serene and old-world rather than flashy.
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Four Seasons
Fat FavoriteFour Seasons Hotel Firenze
A Renaissance palazzo hotel in Florence set within eleven acres of private gardens near the historic centre.
Four Seasons
Fat FavoriteFour Seasons Surf Club
An under-80-room Four Seasons on a restored prohibition-era club site in Surfside, north of Miami Beach.
Strengths & trade-offs
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze
Strengths
- Eleven-acre private garden, the largest in central Florence, that fully mutes city noise
- Michelin-starred Il Palagio delivers destination-worthy dining on-property
- Consistently warm, detail-oriented staff who remember names and preferences
- Renaissance palazzo architecture with frescoes, sculptures, and a hidden chapel
- Excellent spa, large pool, and modern gym rare for a city-center hotel
Trade-offs
- Recent reports of aggressive, poorly-handled upsell tactics at check-in
- Entry-level rooms can be dark and disappointingly small for the price point
- Pool can feel overtaken by young children during peak family season
- Set slightly outside the main tourist core, requiring a walk or shuttle
Four Seasons Surf Club
Strengths
- Restored 1930 historic architecture with grand coffered ceilings, arched corridors, and Mediterranean elegance that no competitor in Miami can replicate
- Thomas Keller's Michelin-starred Surf Club Restaurant is among Miami's finest dining rooms
- Under-80-room intimacy keeps pools, beach, and common areas genuinely uncrowded
- Service caliber that consistently exceeds even other Four Seasons properties — staff learn names and anticipate needs
- Adults-only main pool, dedicated kids club, and family-friendly beach area make it functional for both couples and families
Trade-offs
- Repeated incidents of staff entering occupied rooms without consent — a serious privacy issue that management has handled poorly
- Breakfast and brunch pricing feels extractive relative to quality; $125 Sunday brunch that charges extra for coffee is a legitimate grievance
- Surfside location is removed from South Beach and central Miami dining — a non-issue for some, a real inconvenience for others
- The adjoining Surf Club Restaurant operates independently — no room charge, no guaranteed table as a hotel guest, and bar service reportedly inconsistent
Scoreboard
| Dimension | Four Seasons Hotel Firenze/ 20 | Four Seasons Surf Club/ 20 |
|---|---|---|
| Tier | Fat Favorite | Fat Favorite |
| Overall Fat Score | 17.5Even | 17.5Even |
| Service | 17.5+0.5 The concierge, front desk and butlers get named constantly for anticipating requests, though check-in has also drawn a real complaint about a pushy suite upsell during a honeymoon. | 17 Guests repeatedly name staff unprompted, from valet to housekeeping, though a few recent stays flag slower breakfast service and a couple of serious lapses (an unannounced room entry, a security mix-up). |
| Design | 18.5Even A former Medici palazzo on 11 acres of private gardens, with a recently opened Palazzo del Nero wing that keeps the Renaissance detail while feeling fresh. | 18.5Even The restored 1930s club building with its archways and coffered ceilings gets called serene and old-world rather than flashy, though a few call the rooms themselves small and generically laid out. |
| Location | 17+0.5 A 10 to 15 minute walk from the Duomo, close enough for the city but far enough that the gardens genuinely block out the noise and crowds. | 16.5 Surfside sits well north of South Beach, which people love for the quiet and the beach but flag as a real drawback if you want to eat or go out beyond the property. |
| Dining | 17+1 Il Palagio and the Atrium Bar get consistent praise, but breakfast is called simpler than expected and poolside food has been flagged as bland. | 16 Thomas Keller's restaurant and the Champagne Bar get real love, but Lido brunch draws complaints about slow service, mediocre food and a $125 charge that doesn't even include coffee. |
| Wellness | 17.5+0.5 One of the largest hotel spas and pools in Florence, though the pool area gets crowded with young children in peak summer. | 17 The adults-only pool, private cabanas and coed hammam get singled out as a genuine escape, with the spa therapists praised by name-checked guests rather than the treatments themselves. |
The Verdicts
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze
The garden is what you're paying for as much as the room. Eleven acres, the largest private grounds in central Florence, and you walk through the gate and the city noise just stops, even though the Duomo is a walk away, not a drive. That's the reason people keep coming back even though the hotel sits slightly outside the main tourist core. The garden and the Michelin-starred cooking at Il Palagio are the two reasons to book this over anywhere else in the city. Staff show up by name and by specific act: a server named Francesco pushed the signature Negroni and made the table's night; a spa technician named Letizia got singled out for a nail appointment that ran long in the best way.
The real thing to know about is check-in. One recent report describes a honeymooning couple told, as they were shown to their room, what they would have had if only they'd taken the paid suite upgrade they had already declined — that's a training problem, not bad luck, and worth shutting down politely if it starts. Base-category rooms draw a separate, fair complaint too: dark, small, and a real step down from the palazzo suites; one guest was pushed toward one and only got moved after complaining twice. Summer brings enough toddlers to the pool that a couple of travellers found it more nursery than adult retreat, and the poolside burger gets called flavorless more than once.
None of that changes the case. Book above the base room if you can stretch to it, push back once if the upsell starts, and go outside peak family season if the pool matters to you. Book it for the garden and the kitchen at Il Palagio.
Four Seasons Surf Club
No other hotel in Miami has this building: a restored 1930 prohibition-era beach club with coffered ceilings and arched corridors, a hotel and two residential towers grafted onto it by an owner who'd already had to buy the Palm Beach property because he wasn't allowed to build a rival next to his own club there. Under 80 rooms keeps the pools and beach genuinely uncrowded, and it's the detail travelers mention most, alongside staff who remember faces on a second visit: a front-desk regular named Patch, a pool bartender named Agustin who wished one guest a happy anniversary unasked. Thomas Keller's Surf Club restaurant is the other reason people book: guests call it a top-three Miami dining room.
Now the part worth pricing in properly. There's a real pattern of staff or security entering occupied rooms without warning, including a 2026 account of security walking into a guest's locked, dark room at night while they slept. Management's response was slow: a resort-credit offer, then a promised one-night refund that took over a month to arrive. Breakfast and brunch pricing draws steady frustration too: a $125 Sunday brunch that charges extra for coffee is a fair complaint, and a few recent guests found the food merely fine for what a Four Seasons should deliver. The Keller restaurant runs independently of the hotel, so no room charge, no guaranteed table, and bar service that's hit-or-miss. Surfside sits well north of South Beach, closer to Bal Harbour than the strip: restful if that's what you want, inconvenient if you came to eat around the city.
Book it for the building, the quiet, and the restaurant if you want the most old-world week Miami money buys and can live with an unresolved privacy lapse. Travelers chasing a livelier scene tend to land at Faena instead. For a calm, historic stretch of sand, nothing else in Miami is close.

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Common questions
Which should I book — Four Seasons Hotel Firenze or Four Seasons Surf Club?
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze: Il Palagio and the Atrium Bar get consistent praise. Four Seasons Surf Club: The restored 1930s club building with its archways and coffered ceilings gets called serene and old-world rather than flashy.
What's the difference between Four Seasons Hotel Firenze and Four Seasons Surf Club?
Both are Heritage, Architecture, Family, Wellness and Culinary. Four Seasons Hotel Firenze adds Urban and Romantic; Four Seasons Surf Club adds Beach. Four Seasons Hotel Firenze is ahead on the food.
Which is better for dining, Four Seasons Hotel Firenze or Four Seasons Surf Club?
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze leads on this. Four Seasons Hotel Firenze: Il Palagio and the Atrium Bar get consistent praise, but breakfast is called simpler than expected and poolside food has been flagged as bland. Four Seasons Surf Club: Thomas Keller's restaurant and the Champagne Bar get real love, but Lido brunch draws complaints about slow service, mediocre food and a $125 charge that doesn't even include coffee.
Which is better for service, Four Seasons Hotel Firenze or Four Seasons Surf Club?
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze leads on this. Four Seasons Hotel Firenze: The concierge, front desk and butlers get named constantly for anticipating requests, though check-in has also drawn a real complaint about a pushy suite upsell during a honeymoon. Four Seasons Surf Club: Guests repeatedly name staff unprompted, from valet to housekeeping, though a few recent stays flag slower breakfast service and a couple of serious lapses (an unannounced room entry, a security mix-up).
Where are Four Seasons Hotel Firenze and Four Seasons Surf Club?
Four Seasons Hotel Firenze is in Florence, Italy; Four Seasons Surf Club is in Miami, USA.
How does Fat Voyage compare Four Seasons Hotel Firenze and Four Seasons Surf Club?
Fat Voyage scores every hotel out of 20 across five dimensions — service, design, location, dining and wellness — from independent signals: the most active luxury travel communities, major editorial publications, and verified guest reviews, weighted by source credibility, depth and recency. Nothing is paid for, and no hotel can buy a place.





